This episode of Us & Them first aired in 2023, and we’re sharing it again in the wake of the Sept. 10, 2025 assassination of Charlie Kirk, founder of Turning Point USA. President Donald Trump has credited Kirk’s organization with turning out young conservative voters in the 2024 election. Host Trey Kay talks with journalist Kyle Spencer about her book Raising Them Right and the decades-long conservative strategy to organize young voters, and with Abby Kiesa of Tufts University’s CIRCLE about what drives youth turnout. The conversation examines how campus organizing and money shape youth politics and where the system still falls short.
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